sean hannity of having to go under oath they didn t want their executives or their host admitting, in sworn testimony, what they did. that they knowingly an repeatedly pushed one of the most dangerous falsehoods in american history stephen shackelford served a co-counsel for dominion voting systems. mr. shackelford, thanks fo joining us i understand you have on client and one client only and a responsibility to that client i would like you to respond to people who feel that and the public, in a larger way, it wa robbed of an opportunity t learn more and to have som public accountability by not having this trial go forward and the settlement being struc today.
how does today s settlement, t our mind, affect, if at all, the kind of informationa landscape for america s voters particularly voters who migh be conservative or persuadability conservative. i don t think much of it at all. i think the question will be are there new guardrails aroun the 24 election? you would think that there was a lot. that s pretty important to democracy but between now an then, they cover issues like climate change, the debt ceiling, republican primary, and they are still early arena the only arena that matters. i don t think there is going t be much change at all. let s talk about the arena. i find this a fascinatin dynamic. they are the place tha republican primaries happen. it is the thumb on the scale for desantis that hasn t really worked. there is a really interestin push and pull effect you see it in the dominion lawsuit. the reason they are freaking out. they start pushing out more bi lies death because newsmax they are competing with them
about the settlement this had to do with the ide that dominion voting machines, former president trump and allies made this case on fox and elsewhere, they were somehow stealing votes fro donald trump and flipping hi for joe biden. that s obviously false those are conspiracy theories. the case would have revolved around whether fox had done du diligence, whether it wa reckless, whether it was simpl reporting as a network intense on an extremely newsworthy matter argued by the the president of the united states himself. can you hear the tightnes and the vocal cords there? if you caught that parenthetical emission of truth, it was obviously lies, khama go on, in the middle there, of that little segment there, briefly, that s what you got o fox. again, the hope or promise, it did seem possible at some level, if this trial had gone on, i it continued, it would hav inevitably penetrated that fox news belt to some degree
every month, for a year, two years, that spread this lie. if fox news were to retrac this, i think donald trump would have a lot less abilit to spread the big lie that h did. of course, the senate majority leader chuck schume on this very program last mont as we were uncovering th deaths of the deception, tha was being fed to america b fox. fox could keep its stock price up and then that we have settlement and the case won go to trial, what does thi mean for the informational and political landscape? david plouffe served as th campaign manager for obama s 2008 presidential campaign, as well as senior adviser t president obama when he was in the white house. he joins me now. good to have you here. nice to see you one of the things here, a someone who went through multiple elections and particularly democrati primaries, there is no analo to fox that is just a completel different universe over there.
you, know first of all, they will not go on the air and defame - it s pretty clear, i would hope i think you are right. that was always the case. but in the run up to 2024 this stuff will all surfac again. trump is going to say th primary is rigged if he loses state. he s going to say dominion voting machines or tabulatin the votes in new hampshire if he loses new hampshire, like, it s a lot of issue that s going to play on fox news in a way that there is some deterrent effect, harry, fro this settlement. i don t disagree. all the, the settlement amount itself, chris, it s a big check, but i don t think it could v been much less than that whatever deterrent effect it