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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:24:00

we heard four days, and weeks, and months, we heard steve mccraw, director of gps, point the finger to the local school call, point the finger to a teacher, point the finger to local police. you had 91 dps troopers, many of which were in that hallway, and constantly were being told divergent narratives to shed themselves from responsibility here. the absolute truth here is that everybody on scene violated the attacker protocol, the active shooter protocol. that s what happened here, and dps steve micro can t run from it, nor can anyone of these agencies. we need to have accountability. there is a direct report to the governor, and greg abbott has yet to do one thing, or ask one thing for dps. we now hear today that they re finally starting an internal investigation at dps to find out if they follow the procedures.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:25:00

that s what happened here, and dps steve micro can t run from it, nor can anyone of these agencies. we need to have accountability. there is a direct report to the governor, and greg abbott has yet to do one thing, or ask one thing for dps. we now hear today that they re finally starting an internal investigation at dps to find out if they follow the procedures. 55 days later, they finally start to have an internal investigation, that is absurd. well, governor abbott has the authority to call head of the state police into his office, or get him on the phone at any moment, and demand to know everything that he knows. also has the authority to fire him, and replace him. absolutely, he does. absolutely, but this governor hasn t been in uvalde since the 29th of may, hasn t gone back, hasn t been to one single funeral, has failed every step as far as helping these folks with trauma relief, and

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:06:00

a bipartisan report from the texas house representatives is the most thorough report now available on the mass murder, and its aftermath. the report indicates there was no chain of command for the 376 federal state and local law enforcement officers, who showed up at the school. the report documents pete arredondo s failure to assume the role of commander, even though he cowrote the procedural manual that automatically made him the commander of any school shooting incident. but the report also blames all of the rest of the police forces that showed up that day, all of whom had the authority

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:22:00

reporting on this important story. we really appreciate it. thank you. thank you. and joining us now is texas state senator roland gutierrez who represents texas 19th district, which includes uvalde. senator, i know this has been, as they ve all been, a very difficult weekend for you since the shooting. but you now have this report from the texas house, along with this meeting tonight where people were finally able to tell the school board what they think. first of all, your reading of the report, what stands out for you? lawrence, you and i have been talking about this for sometime. we ve seen this failure, we saw it for the last 50 days. the only thing, very little stands out in this report. we know what happened. the only think that is meaningful, i guess, is that there s not this finger-pointing. i ve said it all ones. each and every agency deserves to be accountable here. dps had 91 troopers inside that

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:23:00

sometime. we ve seen this failure, we saw it for the last 50 days. the only thing, very little stands out in this report. we know what happened. the only think that is meaningful, i guess, is that there s not this finger-pointing. i ve said it all ones. each and every agency deserves to be accountable here. dps had 91 troopers inside that hallway. we saw the one trooper that, in the back of his desk, said texas ranger, the guy with a schematic is following him around. for 20 minutes, he is calling on the phone to someone. i want to know who that guy was on the phone with. because when we re talking about accountability, lawrence, i think we are there now for sure, we have to figure out what higher levels, within the department of public safety, or any one of those other agencies, who knew, what, when, and why were they telling these men to go in now? that s what i want to know. yes, the state police

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