and again, i m not defending clinton. he understood that to maintain power, this was not going to work. those costs are real. i saw a study about the land it would take for her solar panel plan, it would be the entire landmass of california and texa texas. you know, as i look at this, you are party has really been co-opted, and you know, bill clinton lost 60 seats and has first midterm and eight senate and 52 house seats. obama lost 63 63 house seats ad six senate seats.
so i m not hollywood, i m not a tv guy. and so starting to get into the tb arena and tv world, it was really an interesting chapter c for me. my next guest is here to help lead you in the right direction. i ve chosen him because he is the person who helped me the most getting through my trial in texas. so this is now 21 years ago. harvey: so when you went there for the first time, did you view that is in addition? i never had any desire to be on television. it wasn t something that i was reallywa interested in doing. i was very engaged with what i was doing, i was very happy with what i was doing. harvey: yet here you are with the number one show on daytime television, where the host, who now bonded with you, says, come on national platform and let s see what happens. i mean, and you weren t intoxicated by that? no, not really. harvey: you were teased in college for being- a hick.
harvey: well, this is fantastic. how often do you play? every day. harvey: do you really? yeah. harvey: this is an old rack at. this was givenar to me by the mother of my dear friend, bill dawson. marge dawson played with this racket in texas and her senior year,al 1938 in texas. can you imagine hitting the ball without? harvey: wow. it is such a smallfi hat. can you actually hit a ball without? yes, one of the top-ranked american players who just retired has played me with this racket. harvey: did he beat you? like a drum. harvey: [laughs] okay. i want to talk about room full of bright because you are an expert of that. we ll see. harvey: one of the reasons i want to do a tribute is that i am fascinated that you have succeeded in so many different areas, you succeeded in psychology, in jury science, you ve succeeded in television, business, what is a secret? for me, i think it is really
case. harvey: i think i heard about that. and amarillo, texas. texas ranchers claimed she slammed beef on her show, costing them millions.ns they claim oprah set out to do them wrong. we won a great victory. we zeroed them out, they were suing for billions of dollars. i get a package, a box, from oprah. i open it up, and there is a little note in there, and it says, i just don t know how to say thank you, but i do know hor to say yacht. [laughter] we picked the boat up, i think we picked it up in nice, and we went all up and down the coast over there, and went to cap rate and the coast and st. tropez and all over there for a couple of weeks and just had a terrific time. ten years ago, i was accused of saying bad things about hamburgers, and because of that, i was put on trial in texas. and that is how i met phil.s
spent most of our lives in texa texas. and the truth is, my dad was a pretty bad alcoholic. and so we never knew if we were going to have money for food. we never knew of the electricity was going to be on that day or whether it wasn t. harvey: you not one of my favorite dr. foul line says? and i do a doctor phil impersonation? let s do it. we were so poor, we couldn t even pay attention. [laughs] that s it. that is pretty bad. harvey: i ll do better in a few minutes. i grew up with a father that was drunk. i grew up, i wouldn t bring my friend s home because i didn t know if my dad was going to be drunk in the driveway naked in denver in january. harvey: you mentioned your dad was an alcoholic. thereem were episodes of violene between the two of you. that is pretty extreme. yeah. he was an animated drunk.