but he is still pushing it till this day, and a lot of republicans believe him. cnn s senior commentator john kasich is here. he s a former republican congressman and governor of ohio. john, good to see you. thanks for joining. let s get right into this because i want to ask you a bunch of questions. bill barr described trump as detached from reality. so with trump still being the leader of the gop now, what does that mean for the party? well, the party apparatus, don, the people who run the state you know, the state parties, they re all trump people, and they re probably just dismissing most of this. they ll say, oh, we need to talk about inflation, whatever. but i think over time and, look, we ve had two hearings. we ve got about four more to go. i think we have to wait and see where we are by the end of june. a lot of people are still going to deny, but i m looking to see if people are going to start to break ranks. and, look, you had the inner circle of trump testifying today
i m jake tapper. aides say this second hearing will drill down on evidence that president trump knew he lost the election but spread false claims of fraud anyway, ignoring court rulings, ignoring the will of the american people. lead-off witness, bill stepien, who has firsthand knowledge about what trump knew about the election numbers. stepien tells cnn he is appearing under subpoena. also testifying today, former fox digital content director chris stirewalt. he was fired after his accurate call of arizona for joe biden. we ll hear directly from republicans who investigated and rejected claims of election fraud in the key states of georgia and pennsylvania, and felt trump s anger for it, former u.s. attorney bijay . . ak and al schmidt and ben ginsburg will testify there was no widespread fraud in 2020 and
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milling about at that construction site. i think it s a very difficult argument for the defense to distance their clients from the statements they ve made not only at the scene but with respect to social media posts, with regard to things they told other people, and of course the colorful language that you used at the outset demonstrating what they believe people of color to be. and i think if the prosecution is able to establish that that is the basis for them running down ahmaud arbery, i think their get their conviction. difficult argument to make if you re the defense. that social media stuff will do you in every time. it leaves a trail. joey, i want to turn to the federal civil rights trial of three former minneapolis police officers in george floyd s death. darnella frazier, the teenager who videotaped the murder of george floyd, testifying today after initially breaking down in the courtroom. she said that she didn t see george floyd resist at all. her video is everything in t
we heard testimony yesterday that the taser in this case was or the assumed use of the taser was too close to to mr. wright to be effective in its impact. do you agree or disagree with that? that s completely untrue. reporter: during cross-examination the prosecution pushing back a little bit. it s important to underscore the prosecution rested its case this morning after calling more than 20 witnesses, including daunte wright s mother and his father. court resumes after lunch today, and i also want to point out this use of force expert that s testifying today. the first witness the defense called said he had open heart surgery last week. ana? thank you for that update. i want to bring in cnn legal analyst and criminal defense