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everyone agreed for some time that we need congress to act here but there s no chance that will happen. i think the biden administration is trying to do a few things. they re trying to manage this crisis, manage this influx of people, they have health protocols in place to of test people if they re showing symptoms, to isolate them. the vice president is looking at root causes to try to stem the flow where they come from. i think there s a broad recognition that the border is a challenge with no easy or good answers and they re trying to do things including by the way keeping in place title 42 that the trump administration regulation about being able to get rid or send migrants back quickly. so they re trying a balancing game here, brett and it s really challenging. brett: it is challenging, steve. yeah. you can t help notice the difference in the rhetoric between the way that the biden administration talks about the border and the problems on the border including covid and the way t

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