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shows 60% of registered caucus goers were open to having their mind change. so the polling that we see now, that could change dramatically in just six weeks. julie: do you think joe biden needs to start attacking buttigieg if he needs to get ahead here? they see him as a nice guy, but what people say about nice guys. what is working nationally might not translate at the lower levels of the individual states. what is interesting about iowa is that success there is not final. and, you know, failure, so long as it is not an absolute failure is not going to be fatal. but what it does provide, what iowa does for the rest of the country is it shows voters and it shows donors, which candidate has a message that resonates and which candidate has a ground game that can get voters out. it is a test concept before the general election. and i think that a strong showing is what is needed to. you don t necessarily need to walk away with a first-place finish, but you need to be competitive. spen