who hired the hitman. we heard daniel hodges say there was no doubt in his mind. it was one of the four officers say there was no doubt in his mind that the crowd would have kidnapped or killed members of congress if given the opportunity. i m told we have that sound bite. let s run that. what is worth all of that pain? what was worth it? what were you fighting for that day? democracy. you were 40 feet away. 40 yards. whatever. if especially with the raiser thin margin razor thin margins on democrats and republicans in the house and senate. if any single person was kidnapped or killed, which is what i believe they intended, that would affect the outcome of legislation and all your duties for years to come. we also have seen chief
of the attack. my panel of experts is back with me. also with us, cnn law enforcement analyst terry gainer, a former u.s. capitol police chief. i want to start with you, chief ramsay. you know officer finone and swore him in when you were head of police. what was your reaction from the testimony of the officers? well, i had a range of emotions. first of all, hearing their own story to me was even more powerful than watching the video. because they gave details that the video simply could not capture. really put things in context. and i felt anger that they had to go through that. but i also felt a lot of pride. i mean, these are the men and women that actually defended democracy and not just those four, but all the others. i think about many of the other officers not even in the capitol
to have even the bipartisan commission because there was not an investigation into the reaction to the killing, the murder of george floyd last summer. in his statement from the national guard saying i was called up from the national guard. and i not once did i think the reaction to what i was seeing there was a threat to democracy. but this was. and that the whole culmination of all that, jake, it made my heart just drop and sink and rise and fall. because you re seeing that none of this can be compartmentalized. not one of those aspects of it. i will end saying what officer dunne said. i guess this is america, too. yeah. and let me bring in terri gainer, former capitol police chief. one of the things that was also disturbing, and if we could get a clip 14 ready. daniel hodges who was one of the metropolitan d.c. police officers who testified today, he
in another, a man in a pro-trump hat fights with law enforcement. and this footage released by the justice department captures the moment a rioter allegedly stole a badge and radio from d.c. police officer michael fanone. six months after the insurrection, capitol police say the agency is changing to adopt to the new threat landscape. they ve purchased more equipment, offered new training and now share intelligence with officers, something glaringly absent before rioters attacked the capitol. but officers tell cnn they re worried the changes amount to marginal differences and fear they re no better prepared today than they were in early january. since the insurrection, at least 75 officers have resigned. providing security is done by people. those officers have to be rested, trained, sharp, with good information, and well led. when morale is bad, that makes it more difficult. reporter: terry gainer is a cnn contributor and the former
absent before rioters attacked the capitol. but officers tell cnn they re worried that the changes amount to marginal differences and fear they re no better prepared today than they were in early january. since the insurrection, at least 75 officers have resigned. providing security is done by people. those officers have been to be trained with sharp information and well led. when morale is bad, that makes it more difficult. reporter: terry gainer is r and the former chief of capitol police as well as a former senate sergeant at arms. he worked on the first review of capitol security that generated 100 recommendations from hiring hundreds more officers to ramping up intelligence operations. we thought some of the recommendations could take upwards of a year or two. reporter: physical security around capitol hill is slimming. the national guard wants a large presence is gone.