Interviewing senator mack in 1982 cermak left a successful banking career to the senate where he served three terms in the u. S. Senate. He then served two terms before reelection so with that i will hand it over keep an eye on your chat feature. Thank you very much it is great to have this conversation with a man i admire so much in the New York Times today had an article about independent bookstores that i think is worth mentioning because i am a kindle guy but every time i read a book i by ten to send to friends its important to focus on the fact that as a nation we need to be literate and supporting authors across the spectrum. Im a big fan of yours and a big supporter i read it on the Amazon Kindle and if you have a chance to do it i would suggest you do that the independent bookstore especially during the pandemic so theres enough for my announcement. There are four independent bookstores participating. Thats why i brought it up. [laughter] we should name who they are the midtown