the gunfire. that could have been five, ten minutes after the critical incident, we just don t know. with westminster being an unfortunate parallel, is this in the, if you will, isis guide book? is this in the terrorism attack guide book? oh, yes. this has been you know, this has been in the pantheon of terrorist tactics for decades. what we re seeing now, certainly with isis, and to a lesser extent with al qaeda, al qaeda was the first one to actually publish this in a manual to use a vehicle what we call vehicle as weapon system. and that s where you just take your car and run over people. armed edged weapons attacks knife attacks were popularized by al qaeda also. however, the place where we saw these happening all the time was israel. there were over 50 attacks like this in israel with palestinians just using, as we said, suicide