a group of women that i reached out to. we were trying to protect the united states, whether we could do that, it s a big burden. i was drawn to those women because of the job that they were doing. i mean, substantively they were so immersed in finding bin laden and tracking and some of them had been around working the subject matter for so long that they were the people i went to and wasn t even because they were women. the rest of the organization didn t necessarily think much of terrorism analysts. they said the terrorism people are just tracking things. that s not a real analysis. that s just tracking things. so we were lowly terrorism analysts. we were tracking things. you re going to have certain kinds of people who are going to be the first ones to see something. when you re the first one off the block, by definition, you re going to be in the minority. that s what we were.
out to. we were trying to protect the united states, whether we could do that, it s a big burden. i was drawn to those women because of the job that they were doing. i mean, substantively they were so immersed in finding bin laden and tracking and some of them had been around working the subject matter for so long that they were the people i went to and wasn t even because they were women. the rest of the organization didn t necessarily think much of terrorism analysts. they said the terrorism people are just tracking things. that s not a real analysis. that s just tracking things. so we were lowly terrorism analysts. we were tracking things. you re going to have certain kinds of people who are going to be the first ones to see something. when you re the first one off the block, by definition, you re going to be in the minority. that s what we were.
britain works with our international partners to make the world safe from terrorism. terrorism that has taken more muslim lives than any other religion. nbc s michelle kosinski joins me from london. michelle, what do we know about the victim and what do we know about the suspects and whether they had risen to the level of any kind of inquiry or surveillance before this act. there s a lot of information coming out today the we saw police raid three homes in three separate locations around london. thought to be linked to these two suspects. and it has emerged that both of them born in britain, of nigerian descent, were known to british security services prior to this time. exactly how and why, that kind of detail hasn t emerged. but we did talk to terrorism analysts who said they had just spoke ton high-level security sources who said there was no suspicion or indication that these two were planning any kind of an attack. they describe them as being sort of a sort of intelligence sou
occurrence in america. a guy with a suicide bomb on charged the police. it s extremely unusual. so i mean, that s very different. so we know that he s alone now. we also know that when he came to the united states he was 8 years old. his family was seeking asylum. he didn t come here as some sort of radical he was 8 years old. he was on the wrestling team. wrestling team. right. you just interviewed his classmates. what a great interview. this guy was later radicalized and his brother probably played a key role in doing it and some on the internet and maybe some other influences, both here and abroad. and i think that the terrorism analysts, the experts on that, like roger cressey, those kind of guys will be digging in that so deep, they will know everything this guy did since he was 12 years old. they will figure out what happened and that is a big
welcome back to hardball. we learned pakistani officials will allow u.s. intelligence people to access to osama bin laden s three wives over there. or at the very least share the information gathered in the pakistanis investigation, interrogation of those people. what s the significance of pakistan s cooperation? joining me is roger and michael sheehan both of whom are terrorism analysts for nbc news. thank you, gentlemen. what s the significance? he has three wives. are they going to cooperate? they are. this shows that they are going to try to cooperate. but it also shows, chris, that the wives don t have any information that could implicate the pakistani government in sheltering bin laden. there is no way they would have let us talk to them unless they were confident they didn t know anything. the wives weren t going to know anything here. it is a public way to say hey, we are working with the