prevent a terror state from taking hold in that part of the world. that s the concern going forward does afghanistan become that again? and collarisa what s your see on the ground? d does afghanistan quiunited stat or does the united states have to go in again? i think the taliban very much wants to avoid the united states coming back in and that s how this whole deal was basically struck. the americans really wanted to leave. the taliban really wanted the americans to leave and the one thing they could both agree on is if the taliban is able to prevent afghanistan from once again becoming a safe haven for terrorist, that deal will be honored. but the reality on the ground is a lot more ambiguous because while the taliban s sweep to power is stunning and shocking by any measure and while they do
balance between combatting china and russia in bigger traditional powers with islamic terrorism but you can t ignore this is still going to be around. pete, remember how isis was just flourishing and then was. what changed? i don t know. do you know? is it lots of bombs? i think so. unleashed military? yes. turns out that matters in that neck of the woods for sure. it all comes to me comes down to the false choice that exists between leaving, you have to completely leigh or you escalate all the way. i m worried about the fact this is the same white house saying nobody could have seen that the afghan troops would melt away. now everyone is telling us that isis does not have the ability to attack us at home. which am i supposed to believe? that gives us pause. we know legitimized the taliban as a terror state and we know
you have have more people out they planned more carefully. the issue is how this went down. it s not about not wanting to get out it s how we got out. that s right. i was in touch with people there, at the gate. they didn t know in cases who was coming in. there was a vouching process and then family members along side them. i m passionate making sure our allies come in. they re dancing around a number they didn t create. they re dancing around hundreds of american citizens are there. yes, veterans understand the battlefield better than anyone else and want to avoid it we also have to go back to fight it leaving the terror state. i believe we should have left afghanistan, we should of lodge ago. it s living a sports fan watching a seven game final. you watch teams compete all the
people left behind, the legitimate terror state that is this. ultimately i tip my hat to the pentagon using a he will p-pt of surprise, moving earlier than many thepg they would and getting all of our boys back. it s not been a smooth process. we have lost 13 american lives. almost two dozen additionally wounded that won t be forgot not. it s a good thing we re not a target now. greg. agree with everything pete said. that s it for me. no, really it s a relief to know it s over. we know it s not. yes. urplts we know the analysis is not over. if that was over i would be out of a job. it s weird when you hear it s a new afghanistan the same day you hear they executed a folk singer. there are other elements out there. then you have conflicting stories about whether isis and
whether to recognize the taliban as the government there. that would be recognizing a legitimate terror state 20 years after 9/11, exact opposite what we were supposed to do. will: by extension what you explained, legitimatizing, recognizing not just the taliban but their partners in al qaeda. so the complete reversal what we went in 20 years ago to your point, we went in to defeat al qaeda but we leave legitimatizing al qaeda. pete: same bub bubbas different flags. same headscarf, matley expel americans, export terrorism around the globe. rachel: we re in this situation in afghanistan because president joe biden had this deadline, he wanted this pr photo-op on september 11th on the 20th anniversary on this moment to say we re out. many people believe, not just the mother of one of the fallen soldiers who actually said that on a our radio station, but people in government, leaders on the republican side who say this