be including this ban on syrian refugees when we have had no examples, none, not one of a syrian refugee engaged in terrorism in the united states. and the third point, and i think this is one that is going to haunt us for a long time, was the suggestion by the president that somehow we re going to favor christians, and in some cases banning muslims in the future. that is exactly the opposite message we need to send to our allies and and to those who, frankly, want to do us harm around the world. chris: but, senator, the president points and there s no question, as kellyanne conway pointed out, there have been some mess-ups this weekend. but on the larger issue of what he s doing, the president points out that there are islamic radicals, some of them refugees, who have committed terror acts in europe. there was at least one person who came in on a visa program who was involved in the terror attack in bernandino. he says i m the one protecting the country. i can tell you that i can
be including this ban on syrian refugees when we have had no examples, none, not one of a syrian refugee engaged in terrorism in the united states. and the third point, and i think this is one that is going to haunt us for a long time, was the suggestion by the president that somehow we re going to favor christians, and in some cases banning muslims in the future. that is exactly the opposite message we need to send to our allies and and to those who, frankly, want to do us harm around the world. chris: but, senator, the president points and there s no question, as kellyanne conway pointed out, there have been some mess-ups this weekend. but on the larger issue of what he s doing, the president points out that there are islamic radicals, some of them refugees, who have committed terror acts in europe. there was at least one person who came in on a visa program who was involved in the terror attack in bernandino. he says i m the one protecting the country. i can tell you that i can
clarify to your point the position of the administration which the reporters were trying to get to yesterday. it also gives them an opportunity, joe, to talk about how the global community needs to be better coordinated to avoid the kind of gaps in information gathering and gaps in intelligence gathering that allows them to fall behind what the terrorists are doing. puts them in a position where the idea of a muslim ban or extreme vetting is less the target of those who would be opposed to it and focus is more on how do we globally together work to avoid this from happening in the future. the fact that you can t deport someone that you think is going to do something, commit terror acts against your country is another country that won t take them is problematic to say the least. this headline in the new york times is something the trump campaign needs to take a look at. the ambiguity yesterday in that
well, we don t know all the facts and he s getting out in front of the facts. on the other hand, based on the patterns we ve seen before, you know, his statements would fall into the fact pattern that we ve seen in past incidents like this and people could applaud him for his frankness here. and it may very well end up being what he said. but the problem is, all of those other tweets and statements where he sort of jumped the gun, he was in a campaign. a campaign is very different than actually governing as the commander in chief and leader of the free world. and this is a difference, i think, that donald trump doesn t quite understand yet, but maybe is transitioning into understanding that. to your point, i did notice the big change in his tweets. they were not all about him. they were about these terror acts and the fact that the civilized world does have to change. i don t think anybody can disagree with that. but i think where we are still looking to see the big question mark, is
alienated muslim immigrants, arab and south asian communities across the country. countless families saw their fathers, uncles and brothers who reported for registration, some of them disappearing and eventually being deported. what if the program included countries like britain and france, because let s face it, they have had people who were inspired by isis commit terror acts in their country. what if they, too, those countries, were on the list? i have no idea what the trump administration is contemplating right now in terms of which countries might be included in some type of special registration program. we do know in the aftermath of 9/11 there were 25 countries listed and all but one were muslim majority countries. the trump transition team right now is talking about muslim majority countries so for the aclu and for all americans, we should be very concerned. even though the trump transition team is talking about this as a