2007, hillary clinton was doubling up, barack obama then, of course, you remember, barack obama, once he won iowa, once he won those iowa caucuses, the numbers really turned dramatically for him nationally. some of those key states, especially. south carolina, so, obviously, that would be the hopeful example that the bernie sanders campaign would be pointing to right now. but that is quite a high bar that barack obama set in 2007 and 2008. so, that s where we stand right now. that s where we ve been. and joining me now to talk about how the race is shaping up for 2016, we have howard fineman, the global editorial director for the huffington post, jackie kucinich, and msnbc contributor, jonathan capehart of the washington post. welcome to all of you. howard, let me start with you. you ve heard the line as much as anybody else, the donald trump phenomenon, the ben carson phenomenon, being written off as something we ve seen before, whether it was newt gingrich or rick santorum or mic