attended the conference of mayors winter meeting. also with us dr. laura congress, director of the international tsunami information center. kirk, how worried were you about honolulu? we were very worried, larry. we took this event extremely seriously. an earthquake 8.8 on the restrict ter scale was generated in 1960. i am from the town of hilo. that generated a 30-foot wave and killed 30 some odd people in a tsunami that struck in 1960. we were very, very concerned. the earthquake generated back in 1960, while larger, you know, we were fearful, therefore we took extreme action to make sure public safety was affected.