makes our tent bigger, the 26 million people watching everybody. but my point is, that advertising fee has now changed, and now it has become reality. when you start drawing we had about 5.6 million and i got a thank-you note from fox. and in the second debate in myrtle beach with about 6.5 million, and it was a big deal, those kind of numbers. so let s see if trump let s see what he s going to do. this is one thing where i think trump is right. when he says hey, if i wasn t in the debate, you d have two million people watching. super bowl type fees for anything surrounding it. but, you know, i mean, i think that this next debate if trump drops out, i think the air will be taken out, honestly. for him to put a price tag, that s not presidential. but, you know it s a terrible precedent. but the point it does show that the situation these networks are in. it gets into this fight that donald trump had with fox news. what republican candidate could
i have to say the republican party of conservatives looked very bad. one minute we re trying to uphold the constitution, tell people to follow the laws of the land and we embrace and anarchist like cliven bundy who says, hey, federal laws don t matter to me, i m going to disregard them. he s disregarded them since 1993. carol, i don t know about you, i can t go around not paying my taxes. there are a lot of federal laws i don t like. it looks bad. it makes them not only do we bring spotlight to this man that s breaking laws. then he says people like me would be better off picking cotton and being owned by white people during slavery times. just his use of the word negros is disturbing. it s mind-boggling. what s really sad about this, republicans have been trying to make the tent bigger, trying to attract minorities to the party. this isn t helping. no, it s not.
the white house, i can tell you, it is a lot nicer than the outside of the white house. so, you know, it is not an option for the republican party. this is not i hear many people say, you know, if we pass this immigration legislation we re making 11 million new democrats. that s plainly false and that, i would tell you, is offensive. i have heard it from democrats, including vice president biden, and from some republicans. it is wrong and it is not optional for the republican party because we either figure out this formula on how to attract other voters, minority voters, make the tent bigger, or we re, frankly, going to find ourselves standing under a small umbrella. yeah. a ana, kelly. thank you. ana, we had this conversation at dinner and now on television. i m glad this is the only part of the conversation that s on television. well! the first part almost got on. but you held yourself on that. thank you, ana navarro,
immigration in the least. that s one of the troubles that the republican party faces. its militant wing doesn t want to reach out and make the tent bigger, which seems to doom the republican party as a national party. and that s why some republicans look at cpac and say, this is just crazy. this is exactly the opposite of what we need. one of the highlights every year at cpac is the presidential straw poll. that will happen despite that we are several years away from a presidential race. at this point any idea who a front-runner for the cpac might be? i would guess rand paul. i think this is rand paul s convention. cpac has a lot of college kids wandering around it in various stages of sobriety. and like all straw polls, it is fixed in the sense that
how s the gop going to regroup? they need to basically say, what kind of party do we want? the sunsetting party. we knew this before. talking about the state of texas. importance of the and karl latino vote and perplexed by the gop starting by ground zero, latinos exist the vote matters. i lived in texas. i m 42. i knew at age 1 it mattered. this is when i say that the gop has to regroup. they have to figureout, do they want to win congressional seats over and over again and gerrymandering or do they want to take over the senate and the white house and only way is to make the tent bigger, not just for latinos but for women and other minorities. let s bring you in. you have maria teresa and talking to three white males, as well, and curious separating the national numbers with ethnic and