Jan egeland, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you. Youve been in the humanitarian and aid business for a very long time now. Youre very recently back from gaza. Were you shocked by what you saw . Profoundly, profoundly. I wasnt really prepared. Even being as old as i am in humanitarian work for the devastation, the destruction and this utter feeling of hopelessness among the population which is crammed together in southern gaza, in rafah. So i was there three days, two nights, spoke with the mothers, the fathers, the children. And i must say, its in 2024 and were allowing this to happen. It is beyond belief. You talk about the hopelessness of the People Living through that experience. What about the hopelessness of people like you who are supposed to be making lives better, protecting those Vulnerable People . Were not giving up. When i go to such places, i become enraged. Isee. I need to fight harder. I need to get more resources. I need to get more colleagues there. I need to help more peo