who are much younger? the quest for the truth and the importance of investigative journalism was the reason woodward and bernstein were in the uk. they ve come to speak at a journalism conference being held in the name of the renowned late british journalist sir harold evans, a former editor of the sunday times. his journalistic investigations included the thalidomide scandal, which exposed how a pill to combat morning sickness caused birth defects. we sat down for a second interview just hours after news had broken that trump had been found liable during a civil trial of sexually abusing a woman in america. and, while shocking, the result which he is appealing didn t seem to be having the catastrophic impact on his re election bid some expected. what is it, carl, what is it about donald trump that means all this bad news, all this controversy that should damage him, ends up firing up his base? i don t think it s just
about donald trump. i think it s about the united states of america, the people of the country, our culture today. and we have to look at it as a whole. and trump has obviously plugged into certain aspects of our culture, our sensibility as a people that is different in many regards than it has been in the past. we are a different people who have absorbed a different set of circumstances and beliefs, and many of those things are anti democratic. so much turns on, as president, this allegation surfaced. trump s in the oval office, the sacred home, official home, of presidents, and they ask him about it, and the first thing he says, she s not my type. and then, he says it never happened. now, why, in his mind,
but this is december 14, 1972. nixon hasjust won a landslide victory. nixon s in the oval office with henry kissinger, his secretary of state. and this is happy time for nixon. and this is literally what nixon says. remember, we re going to be around, and outlive our enemies. and also, never forget the press is the enemy. the press is the enemy. both: the press is the enemy. the establishment is the enemy. the professors are the enemy. write that on a blackboard 100 times, and neverforget it. that s nixon. that s donald trump also. that s right. half a century since the watergate scandal, that moment in history continues to permeate the work
last election. and what about that election inspired you? to see all the anomalies during the election. there s no way that biden could ever have won an election. he didn t campaign. the most unpopular person. if you believe that that was a safe and fair election, i mean, i just can t help you. the truth is it was a safe, fair and legitimate election. stop the steal! stop the steal! yet, tens of millions of trump fans don t believe it. steve bannon has had a great influence on where my party, the republican party has gone. he has a type of politics that is about hatred. it s about dividing this country and generating distrust of our institutions. beyond just spreading disinformation, bannon motivates. everybody should be a precinct committeeman. now is the time to get in power. i thought, okay, a precinct committeeman. now he s inspired an entire army of political neophytes to take over the republican party. have to do something.
if you believe that that was a safe and fair election, i mean, i just can t help you. the truth is it was a safe, fair and legitimate election. stop the steal! stop the steal! yet, tens of millions of trump fans don t believe it. steve bannon has had a great influence on where my party, the republican party has gone. he has a type of politics that is about hatred. it s about dividing this country and generating distrust of our institutions. beyond just spreading disinformation, bannon motivates. everybody should be a precinct committeeman. now is the time to get in power. i thought, okay, a precinct committeeman. now he s inspired an entire army of political neophytes to take over the republican party. have to do something. i just can t sit around. far right candidates who believe in election conspiracy