Host good afternoon, josh. Its to talk to you about this wonderful book down in the chapel. The book arrives is what is seen as an opportune moment the year that there has been much discussion on different sorts of the place of prisons in American Society and contemporary moment in particular on one hand of Michelle Alexanders the new jim crow and more recently i was introduced through colleagues to the new netflix phenomenon orange is the new black, right quicks on one hand the polemic against massive incarceration and the other hand this personal story of interesting entree into the prison system. I think in many ways your book is able to deal of the detailed description of Human Experience and weigh in against a system as it were. Im wondering how you see just the way of opening up the conversation your book and where it might fit in that landscape from orange is the new black to the new jim crow . Guest we are speaking today at day after eric holder one on the record about mandator