delivered, put in his mailbox. right. you look at florida. that s a long way away, so going through chronology, they re going through, for instance, telephone metadata. they re going through wi-fi cameras around the post office, and they re putting this and they re using software to combine this all and unless this guy was really, really good or these people, they re going to come up with a clue and my guess is and i m out on a limb it won t be long. ten bombs around the country, there s just a lot of stuff out there. unless he s truly has some sort of professional training. so, just to drill down on what you said, the idea that if he had a phone on him, not even that he made a call, but that he had a phone on him and then delivered it to soros house and to new york, you d be able to trace him. absolutely. the gps locations, the time, the phone in front of the house within ten feet, and then other,
it, at least that s a beginning point? well, it s the beginning of our process. last night on the rare sunday sex, there was drama, there was passion. there were some raised voices. now as you mentioned, senate leaders are trying to make sure the lapse in this law, many see as vital to fighting terrorism is only a few days long or as short as possible. i m not going to take it anymore. i don t think the american people are going to take it anymore. reporter: the heated debate over the patriot act pushing beyond the midnight deadline in washington. forcing the nsa to immediately stop collecting telephone metadata on millions of americans across the country. they want to take a little bit of your liberty but they get it by making you afraid. senator rand paul blasting the nsa s domestic under surveillance program, calming it an illegal spy program on americans. this as counterterrorism officials also lose the ability
welcome back. just hours from now the senate will hold a rare sunday session to vote on extending the patriot act as well as a new domestic reform bill. at midnight tonight three key rescissions of the patriot act are set to expire, section 215 which allows the nsa to collect and store telephone metadata on millions of americans, and then roving wiretaps used to track terror suspects who frequently change communication devices, and the lone wolf provision that allows the surveillance of somebody who is not connected to a known terror group, but senator and republican presidential candidate, rand paul, is vowing to block extension of the patriot act and any other legislation that fails to end the government s domestic data collection program. joining me now, republican senator mike lee, and he is sponsoring the new reform bill the senate will take up, and senator angus king, who has serious concerns with the proposed legislation. i want to begin, if i can, with senator lee. senator lee,
stop isis. because otherwise we ll have a terrorist state and it will get around the to threatening us here. we were talking about the repeal of 215. are we becoming less safe if that happens? no. president obama appointed me to a review group to look at that with four other guys last year. i ran all the cases. all 57 or 54 whatever it was, cases. where 215 telephone metadata was used. it wasn t necessary. if it hasn t been there, the outcome would have been the same. i recommended, we recommended, abolishing the program where the government takes the information and the government stores it and the government can look at it without a warrant. we said look the phone companies save this anyway. let the phone he companycompanies save it and when you want it get a warrant. you can get a warrant really quickly from the intelligence court. you can even get after the fact in an emergency. i support the freedom agent
process for getting on the usa freedom act. it was the bill that passed with 338 votes last week that would take the collection of telephone metadata and move it from being stored with the government, and instead have the telephone companies store it instead. and so senator mcconnell wanted to start the process to get that vote going, and if senator rand paul goes past midnight tonight, he won t be able to do that, he will only be able to do that tomorrow. technically his speech on the floor could delay the consideration of that bill but it only adds a day to the calendar, it only makes the prospect of being here over the weekend greater. in terms of potential delay, that being the nuclear consequence that he could cause by what he s doing how do his fellow senators feel about that? a lot of them say, this is the prerogative to speak out