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Week, and weve got the perfect lineup here this hour to help walk us through it all. Lets dive right in. Joining me now from the white house is nbcs hans nichols, and from capitol hill, msnbcs Garrett Haake. Gentlemen, good morning to both of you. Hans, lets start with you, because the president has spoken about this process in an interview he just gave to fox news. Reporter and spoke at length. He spent almost an hour with fox this morning. And what theyre doing is previewing, ali, a new argument, and its the idea that they actually welcome a senate trial. You heard that from the president. You heard it most recently from the former attorney general in florida. Heres the tension in that argument, though, and that is, on the one hand, theyre saying this entire process was illegitima illegitimate, using words like coup, and at the same time, theyre claiming that this illegitimate process could ultimately lead them to a senate trial where the facts will vindicate them. So, listen to how

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That he overheard the president tell one of his top diplomats, Gordon Sondland, that he wanted to know if ukraines president had agreed to quote, do the investigation. Which, in this context, was a clear reference to an investigation into the bidens. Holmes testified that sondland told him point blank that President Trump did not give an explaytive about ukraine and that he only cared about quote big stuff like investigating the bidens. In addition to the damage that testimony may do to the president s case, sondland is now facing questions about whether he may have lied to congress. Holmes testimony directly contradicts sondlands october deposition where sondland testified he could not recall being part of any effort to investigate the bidens. And he could not recall any conversations with the state department or the white house about that matter. Holmes testimony contradicts both those claims raising the stakes that much higher for sondlands public hearings on wednesday. Holmes publi

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