that space, i think that good things can happen for him. he s fundamentally a technocrat. he hasn t got the vision thing. and it s interesting to ask whether americans want the vision thing or the technocrat. if you look at europe right now, there are signs that people are increasingly going for techno crates, people who are competent and can run economies well. maybe that won t cut it here in america. but the vision thing is certainly lacking right now. john, you mentioned this. what was the calculation or what is the calculation inside the obama campaign about going right wing nut job? as steve says, this a guy that the white house itself says laid the ground work for the obama care. how nutty could he be? it s a good question. and i think the calculation is something we talked about in the first hour of the show, which is that the white house and the re-election committee look at what s happened to romney over the course of the primaries. he came out of the primaries