same thing as what any individual lecture might deserve to earn in terms of fair pay progression. those are not the same things, are they? i think for all employers there is a balance that has to be struck between what an organisation can afford to pay without busting the bottom line of the budget, and what you want to do to make sure you reward staff, and it s important to see universities are buildings, they are the people who work in them and the students who study in them, so of course universities want their staff to be well rewarded and to have careers which are really satisfying, and that has got to be balanced with affordability, and if your income is not rising, and for universities, particularly given the ten year freeze on the income they get for teaching uk students, income isn t going up, but costs are rocketing, so energy bills are going up rocketing, so energy bills are going up very fast for universities just like the are for all of us and they