that s a huge taxpayer burden. i want to make sure we re doing it appropriately and compassionately considering the fact that they entered illegally but may not have committed crimes and we won t break up families. i would add this is a very different issue from the sanctuary city policy that we talked about earlier in the segment. we need to see accurate reports. police chiefs across this country are supportive of sanctuary city policy. shannon: i would say there are a number of them who stepped out and say they don t. okay. good to see you guys and some agreement and smiles there. bill: it started well, didn t it? shannon: there were some kumbaya moments in person. bill: jen brewer is live to talk about that and the white house new immigration efforts. that s coming up next hour. also there is this. let s get to it. a tense meeting between rex tillerson and his russian counterpart happening at the moment as moscow accuses the u.s. of conducting an illegal