at the very least, if they tried and failed and make the case of the reason they failed is because democrats wouldn t come along, you couldn t run another election on it. i don t think that s true about taxes. i think if republicans burn voters on taxes this time, i don t think they will stand around and get burned again. i think you re absolutely right. you want to put points on the board. if anything, if republicans are good at it i think there will be taxcutting in tax reform. there is another reason the republicans have to get this. it s the only way to kickstart the economy. i think the other measures are going to have a marginal effect. there is no doubt that if you do tax reform the right way, you eliminate loopholes which are inefficiencies. all of them are giveaways and cutouts and essentially corporate welfare when you cut
at the very least, if they tried and failed and make the case of the reason they failed is because democrats wouldn t come along, you couldn t run another election on it. i don t think that s true about taxes. i think if republicans burn voters on taxes this time, i don t think they will stand around and get burned again. i think you re absolutely right. you want to put points on the board. if anything, if republicans are good at it i think there will be taxcutting in tax reform. there is another reason the republicans have to get this. it s the only way to kickstart the economy. i think the other measures are going to have a marginal effect. there is no doubt that if you do tax reform the right way, you eliminate loopholes which are inefficiencies. all of them are giveaways and cutouts and essentially corporate welfare when you cut
he got elected to the presidency and they haven t seen them. they wouldn t have elected him, most americans don t care billionaires pay lower tax rate than they do or obama would have fixed that when he had more power and the bottom line is they care about other issues but i will say i don t think tax reform is the number one issue or even the number 2 issue, there are border issues and obamacare and tax cut is not a tax cut for most people, it is a serious tax-cut for a lot of people and doing that is important to voters and tax reform has to come after other issues, trump is not going to push it aside, he got elected on the mend focus on tax reform. dagen: president trump ran on a specific taxcutting and tax reform plan. he absolutely did and the economy needs it right now. it will grow at less than 1% in the first quarter according to
thousands of government workers home for christmas without a paycheck. shannon: we will keep an eye on it. ellison barber, thank you very much. democrats are in a conundrum, having to fight a measure that hits wealthier blue states hard but according to even critics will give 80% of americans a tax cut. here s how president trump feels. the democrats don t like to see taxcutting. they like to see tax increases and they like to complain. shannon: former chief of staff or west virginia senator joe manchin, chris kofinis, and matt slap join us. i want to say sound bite from jackie speier. what we re doing here is