we ought to score it that way. if we did that, we have not done it in the past, you can do more tax renorm and tax relief. having said that, we have a $20 trillion debt growing to $28 trillion in the next few years. it s a percent of the economy how to look at the debt. going to levels that is scary. the highest level in the history of our country since world war ii. neil: so it doesn t sound that you d go very big on tax cuts. i would go big in terms of policy. go big in terms of a new international system. bring back the 2.5 trillion stuck overseas. put revenue to that that would help us lower the rates further. but no, let s not go crazy. the objective of tax reform is to improve the well-being of our country. if you make the debt worse, it s not going to help. you have to grow the economy and