i m not putting kennedy in but three brilliant conservatives and one independent right leaning guy was going to reflect the rest of the country that believes that way? that doesn t make sense. they tore him apart in their dissent. they tore him apart and he knew he was going to be torn apart. there is nothing left of the tax argument after you read the dissent. bill: right. he himself admitted. there is an element of his decision, there is this thing called the anti-injunction act where you are not allowed to sue the government over a tuntiy been implemented. obviously that would apply to this. so, in other words, the entire suit against obama care is invalid. how does roberts get around it? he actually writes that for the purposes of the constitution, it s a tax. but for the purpose ever the anti-injunction act, it s a penalty. that s completely illogical. bill: he had to know it was illogical. i m going back.
i m not putting kennedy in but three brilliant conservatives and one independent right leaning guy was going to reflect the rest of the country that believes that way? that doesn t make sense. they tore him apart in their dissent. they tore him apart and he knew he was going to be torn apart. there is nothing left of the tax argument after you read the dissent. bill: right. he himself admitted. there is an element of his decision, there is this thing called the anti-injunction act where you are not allowed to sue the government over a tax until and unless it s already been implemented. obviously that would apply to this. so, in other words, the entire suit against obama care is invalid. how does roberts get around it? he actually writes that for the purposes of the constitution, it s a tax. but for the purpose ever the anti-injunction act, it s a penalty. that s completely illogical. bill: he had to know it was illogical. i m going back.
the only way to explain what he did is that as chief justice he wanted to appear nonpartisan. he wanted to produce a decision whether left and right were agreeing on the main. bill: how key possibly think that the right was going to agree with the taxation? look, in the presentation, the obama administration s justice department lawyers presented 31 pages to the supreme court arguing that the individual mandate should be upheld. they presented 11 pages arguing that they had the power to tax. so, by our breakdown, it s 74% of the time was spent on upholding the commerce clause so-called. which justice roberts struck down. 26 on the tax argument. how did he think that a conservatives were going to say oh, yeah, punitive taxation, coercive taxation, that s what we want the american federal government to be. that goes against our whole history as i made the tea party reference. look, i think you are
the only way to explain what he did is that as chief justice he wanted to appear nonpartisan. he wanted to produce a decision whether left and right were agreeing on the main. bill: how key possibly think that the right was going to agree with the taxation? look, in the presentation, the obama administration s justice department lawyers presented 31 pages to the supreme court arguing that the individual mandate should be upheld. they presented 11 pages arguing that they had the power to tax. so, by our breakdown, it s 74% of the time was spent on upholding the commerce clause so-called. which justice roberts struck down. 26 on the tax argument. how did he think that a conservatives were going to say oh, yeah, punitive taxation, coercive taxation, that s what we want the american federal government to be. that goes against our whole history as i made the tea party reference. look, i think you are
the pocket book. richard louie dug into that. at the heart of the penalty versus tax argument, the 1.3% of americans that the office estimates will not buy insurance this. group is not too worried about the term, but the penalty it may cost. that depens on how much they make. for individuals and their incomes where they are less than $9500, it is zero. above that they start to max out. they will never go greater than 2.5% of income. $50,000, you are looking at $1,000 in penalty. the question then to those who are not going to buy insurance, which is better, the penalty or the plan? those are the penalties and here are the costs from the kaiser family foundation. employers wanted the plans and about $2200. if you make 100,000 or less,