there would be a call, there was a call package prepared in advance. i just cannot say how much of that call package had perhaps been prepared since, for example, the inauguration of president zelensky was then used as basic material for the call, so i did take part in the preparation of that standard call package, but i did not take part in any preparation for the specific call on july 25th. and the first time you actually read the transcript of the call is when it was released to the public? that s correct. mr. holmes, i wanted to turn to you. good to see you again. thank you for mentioning the bipartisan delegation i led with my friend, representative anthony brown from maryland. we do have an exceptionally informative visit where we highlighted the bipartisan congressional support for ukraine, in particular, importance of countering russian aggression. and we discussed in the briefings at the embassy the importance of defensive lethal aid in the form of javelins
with four minutes left, i am turning to the two witnesses. thank you both for yourselves. thank you, dr. hill, for comments on the personal attacks. i wanted to ask you each fact based questions. dr. hill, you testified that you handed over your duties on the nsc to tim morrison july 15th, physically left the white house on july 19th, correct? that is correct, yes. that means by the time there was the july 25th call with president trump and president zelensky, you were no longer on the nsc, correct? actually i was still technically on the payroll of nsc until end of august, august 30th of 2019, but i was not physically in the building and i handed over my duties to mr. morrison. and you were not on the call. i was not on the call, that is absolutely correct. and it is correct you did not participate in preparation of talking points or specific coordination of setting up the call? not for that call. but let me just say for the record that there had been a long anticipated
conversation, sir. at the end of the conversation he said this, he was giving the president advice on how to deal with the rocky situation and they should have released him on your word. so, to be clear. when president trump received word that president zelensky had agreed to the investigations, he said good. what about sweden? yes. when exactly did gordon sondland ask president zelensky about the investigations? i m sorry, sir. when did he ask about the investigations? when did gordon sondland ask zelensky about the investigations? yeah. you re asking in which meeting did he raise the investigations? raised the day before on the call and the next day gordon sondland said who is going to do the investigation. when did he ask about the
zelensky met at the u.n.? they did, not at the oval office. they did have a meeting at the u.n. yes. thank you. i yield back. mr. swalwell. dr. hill, yesterday i think a lot of americans were scratching their heads as ambassador sondland testified that on september 9 he calls the president of the united states and just says broadly what do you want from ukraine, and the president says there s no quid pro quo. there s no quid pro quo. like being pulled over for speeding, being asked do you know how fast you re going and saying i didn t rob the bank. i didn t rob the bank. your testimony today on july 10 this year you told one of the president s lawyers that you had concerns that a white house meeting was linked to investigations, is that right? that s correct, based on what ambassador sondland said in the ward room. as early as july 10th, the
i think this just illustrates the point and the problem that we re dealing with here today. certainly. i was also struck by your testimony that you were also the target of false accusations during your time in the trump administration. you testified, mamerabout being accused as a mole in the white house. you testified about death threats at your home. that was in august 2017. i m sorry you had to go through all of this, ma am. you are not easily deterred, are you, dr. hill? i am not. thank you, both, for your service. thank the gentleman for yielding. my caution to both of you that representations about what prior witnesses said or what you have even said may not be consistent with the facts. this was from ambassador sondland s opening statement. after the zelensky meeting with also met with zelensky s senior