terms of the economy is 9 billion dollars of of tar arri tariffs, that s a fraction of the economy. look at tariff on aluminum, six pack of beer, a cent and a half. in billions of dollars. on a 19 trillion dollar economy. you agree it is billions of dollars increase. i agree the downstream effects of steel and aluminum tariffs are insignificant and the mission here is to preserve our steel and aluminum industries for national security and economic security. dana: how do you respond to the idea that these tariffs would only have a minor or trivial impact on the rest of the economy? they seem to ignore the 9 billion dollar number is only the direct tariff tax amount. and they they ignore the fact that what what the favors would do is turn the united states in to an island of