young s apartment in storage locker, investigators found a computer with emails, fedex receipts from spin and a stash of audiotaped that young had apparently recorded in secrets in the years following the murder. conversations with none other than pam phillips. the computer and the tapes turned out to be the gold mine. reporter: investigators began to play tape after tape. looking for anything that would shed light on the investigation. and on those tapes, they heard ron young threatening pam. there s just plenty of stuff that i could literally dig out of the ground. and your afraid doc. reporter: hence mysterious conversations about banks in money. i can t deal with this. i can t. i d rather die. then what? then sit here and deal with
listen carefully to those phone calls between ron and pam, that were recorded after the murder. there is talk of an agreement. i am not going to keep sending more and more and more money unless i know that you can honor our agreement. and doing something for pam no one else would do. you know what, i also helped you on something that was, you know, beyond what anybody else in the world would probably do. neither pam nor ron explicitly said those payments were for a murder. the defense argument was that he was extorting her. right. what was it that ron young could have on her that she had to pay him $400,000 if it wasn t the murder? and if those tapes didn t persuade the jury, prosecutors had one more star witness.
police discovered a large number of financial files and secret recordings in ron young s apartment. which detective james gamber believed outlined the details of a murder for hire plot to kill gary triano. when you listen to the tapes and you look at the documents you found in ron young s position, what did that spell out? he was entitled to $400,000 of the $2 million life insurance policy, and he was using pam as his bank. he was earning 4% interest on his $400,000. why would somebody who had committed a murder, a murder for hire, keep detailed records that would essentially prove their own involvement and that of the person that hired them? i think for two reasons. one, if your ego is that big, that you think you re not going to get caught, you re too smart
reputation, i m calling the police. there are many people who get extorted, blackmailed, and they basically want to make the problem go away. and so rather than go to the police, pam continued making payments to ron young. the only thing they had were those tapes and that was it. and those were the words of a person trying to get money from another person. that s it. that s not a criminal conspiracy in the wake of pam having hired ron to kill gary. that was after the fact, after the murder, not before. they don t have a single thing, a single shred of evidence of conspiracy before the fact. but if pam and ron did not conspire to kill gary triano, did not carry it out, well, then who did? you are about to hear one wild story of a man police never checked out, a man who had the means, the motive and apparently the desire to kill gary triano.
literally. and you are a friday. the big thing with catching ron young is he collected all the evidence for us. the tapes for the gold mine. reporter: when dateline continues. continues. by hitting eczema where it counts, dupixent helps heal your skin from within, keeping you one step ahead of eczema. and that means long-lasting clearer skin. and fast itch relief for adults. hide my skin? not me. by helping to control eczema with dupixent, you can show more with less eczema. don t use if you re allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur including anaphylaxis, which is severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems, such as eye pain or vision changes, or a parasitic infection. if you take asthma medicines don t change or stop them without talking to your doctor. when you help heal your skin from within, you can change how your skin looks and feels. and that s the kind of change you notice.