elect a speaker since the 1850s continues to play out. he has not yet reached a deal with the senate, mccarthy remains optimistic. lawmaker reportedly even making more concessions to hard line conservatives, some say they still will not support him. sandra: we will likely know a whole lot more as the minutes go on here. we are watching it with you. some mccarthy allies are acknowledge never enough compromise for some hold-outs. warren davidson is backing mccarthy s bid but more than four never kevin lawmakers who will never vote for him. we will have more with the congressman-elect, davidson. he is in front of the camera right now, we ll get to him in just a moment. john: fox news live team coverage, martha will join us with more perspective on the speakership fight, and chad pergram kicking things off this afternoon, live from capitol hill and here we go for a 12th time. here we go again but also some changes. we indicated earlier this morning kevin mccarthy was going
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while and we have also had other speakers win the job without 218 votes. it s happened three times in the past, you know, 27, 26 years, newt gingrinch in the late 1990s with him, it happened with nancy pelosi two years ago, it happened with john boehner. so, sometimes actually when you have the lower number you can win with fewer than 218 votes. it s not a hard number, it is the majority of those casting ballots by name and so the magic number was 217. my calculus here, it was 214, cheryl johnson, the clerk, will announce the total and what she says from the chair is the official total. sandra: i wanted to circle back on that, the graphic on the screen was 213. we heard you say 214, chad, could you clarify that quick for us? and again, that s a manual total here. that s why in the house chamber you have multiple tally clerks and you ve got 5 or 6 of them, it depends who hears a name, i might not have heard a name there, that s the number i have. and so that s why it takes so