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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:17:00

county, georgia, coming perhaps any day now. both bragg and willis have said they will defer to jack smith on the timeline of trials. how quickly do you think judge chutkan could get this trial going? ronaldo mentioned a speedier trial. it s perhaps the most important trial of all. how quickly could get started? how quickly could be completed, even, given next november s the election? every defendant is entitled to a speedy trial. in this instance, when you have a very weak defense, what you do is delay. so it is up to the judge to move things along. however, the judge has to make sure that the defense has had the time to review all the discovery and get things in order. while there is a push, there are certain rights that have to be looked at. it is really interesting. everyone talks about the federal case. but it is the state course case where donald trump. , if he is convicted, has no way of getting out, no way around it. he can t use any kind of

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:02:00

top lawyers stood outside the courtroom at trump s arraignment on thursday and said this in front of cameras, recording her. i think everybody was made aware that he lost the election, but that doesn t mean that was the only advice he was given. oh. everybody was made aware that he lost. there goes the insanity defense. but trump and his supporters in the gop and on fox have not given up with their nonsense defenses. they ve spent the past week straw manning, what about, -ing and straight-up lying in response to jack smith s latest indictment of the former president. tonight, let us start by debunking the top five desperate defenses of donald j trump. and number, one this is the most popular one, this indictment of the former president, they say, is a criminalization of free speech, of political speech. donald trump had a first amendment right to say he didn t lose. how dare the doj violate that? listen to the folks on fox. they are criminalizing

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:04:00

legitimate votes and subverting the election results. see, you can speak freely as long as you are not engaged in crimes or criminal conspiracies. we all know this. conning someone out of their life savings is speech, but it s still a crime. bribing someone s speech and a crime. blackmail is speech and it is a crime. sharing state secrets with a foreign government s speech, it s also a crime. to quote a headline in the new republic this, week there is no first amendment right to organize a coup or to quote someone i would normally quote, trump s own former attorney general, bill barr. as the indictments us, they are not attacking his first amendment right. he can say whatever he wants, he can even lie, he can tell people that the election was stolen, that he knew better. but that does not protect you from entering into a conspiracy. this isn t that hard to

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:10:00

allegory was the sitting vice president who counted george w. bush editorial college votes and didn t do what trump falsely says mike pence was about to do. hillary clinton house senate democrats voted to object to some states votes counts in january 21 and january 2017, but not as part of a plot to overturn the election, not with the aid of fake electors, and not at all gore and hillary clinton s direction. republicans are gaslighting you when they say democrats did the same. of course they didn t. what donald trump did in terms of trying to overrule the votes in georgia or trying to get the doj to make false claims of voter fraud and trying to get mike pence to throw out votes and trying to submit fake electors, no president, no party has ever done before. what trump did is what he is being prosecuted, for not for what he said. and that they keep coming up with one ludicrous dishonest, demonstrably false argument after another is evidence that they know that this time, finally, he

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:51:00

anyone else. so, republicans, us are straight-up lying about the what archer told them. that s not stopping congressman comer from saying, democrats are the real lives here. why are. anytime we do a transcribed interview like we did last week, you will either have jenny jamie raskin or dan golden come out and tell the press complete lies. yeah, who should we believe? dan goldman, who could be seen in the official transcript asking archer questions, or james comer who, according to the daily beast, wasn t even in the room when it happened and skipped the meeting altogether? yeah, the republicans apparently want you not to believe your own lying lies. coming up at nine eastern with ayman mohyeldin, tim hayfield, lead investigator of the january 6th committee joins the show to discuss how trump s latest indictment vindicates his panels work. plus, wisconsin democratic party the dire straits that state

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