and there was i understand. we all know this is something that matters to the president, this particular issue of crowd size, okay, whatever you may think about it, it matters to him. i fess the question is was the senator trying to dig at the president with this setup instead of focussing in on the reali real issue? was it a bit of a grandstand? yes and no. i asked rex tillerson if he agreed with the president that it would be okay if we had a nuclear arms race with russia and he said no, he did not. i asked pruett pruett scott pru agreed with donald trump that the chinese say climate change is a hoax. he said no, he did not. the size of the crowd versus omb is what seems to be i understand what you re saying. but from my perspective, it goes to the whole question of whether or not donald trump is taking this entire job as president seriously including, you know,
state, people involved in philadelphia, republican, they re saying there s no evidence of this at all. you heard lindsey graham. here is speaker ryan and mike huckabee today talking about trump s claim. i ve seen no evidence to that effect. i made that very clear. i have no evidence whatsoever and i don t know that anyone does. clearly he does not care. the president does not care about what his own party says because they re not jumping on board of this at all. that s right. it s in some ways a replay of the campaign where donald trump is on one side and he has what he might call the party elite on another side. so i think in that way, it doesn t really matter to donald trump what those folks say. i think, you know, donald trump sees himself as the leader of a movement, and those are the people we saw him communicate to in the very emotional way on inauguration day. and i think he is doing the same thing here. he s talking to a very specific audience, an audience in many
message for washington. come um with a plan for your constituents that you would sign up for yourself. reporter: and there is the big question mark. if you ask arizona governor what he wants, he wants a plan with more flexibility, more competition, fewer regulations, something that s a little looser, something that arizona can work with. but he has just one vote in this matter. he says he is talking to the trump administration, that the administration has been listening, erin. but there are other states who are also going to have their input. erin? thank you. out front next, the breaking news, president trump expected to announce executive orders tomorrow. these are crucial ones. everyone s been waiting to hear nies new restrictions on refugees and visas from middle eastern countries. and trump bringing back a favorite expression from the campaign trail. what exactly is he saying here? so we re going to start winning again and we re going to win bigly.
michael. when trump was at the cia this weekend, he spoke about how many times he s been on time magazine. this to me was a perfect example of how much he cares about these sorts of things. here s how he said it at the cia. saw a reporter for time magazine and i had been on their cover like 14 or 15 times. i think we have the all-time record in the history of time magazine. like if tom brady s on the cover it s one time because he won the super bowl or something, right? i ve been on for 15 times this year. i don t think that s a record that can ever be broken. so michael, let me put this out there for the fact ps. this is a ridiculous thing to have to talk about. he brings that up, we fact check it and somehow we re also a part of this. but according to time trump has been on the cover 11 times, clinton 19 times since 2013. nixon had the record, actually 55 times and i don t think trump wants to break that for obvious reasons. why does he do this, michael?
that could get even tougher. already as it is, refugees from syria, which is where this all generated during the campaign, it s not sure how much tougher that could be. but that s basically what the plan is. elise, thank you very much. mark preston, our senior political analyst, is back with me. these are incredibly significant moves. he said he would do these things. he s doing them by executive order. seven countries on this visa ban list, all of course muslim countries and also this ban on refugees for now until the system they have a chance to go through the vetting. right. you know, this is something, erin, donald trump talked a lot about on the campaign trail. as elise said, he talked about a muslim ban, talked about extreme vetting of any refugees coming in. but this is something that s going to play well with his base and probably quite well with a lot of people in the united states that are afraid of terrorists coming into the country and doing something. i would like