i think i agree. like how andrea got behind chuck, just duck it. duck the question. i really hope this doesn t happen, but something mark said a second ago, there s a chance that this impoverishes the debate over entitlements because romney is not going to be specific and the president probably just can t help it on a purely political level to speak in the broadest of generalities about entitlement reform which makes it seem extreme when we know most people know, we have been talking about 15 minutes what we have to do. talk to peterson, look at the concord coalition, center left, center right, think tanks, they will all tell you medicare and medicaid together within the next 20 years consumed 100% of all taxable, all taxes that come into the federal government will be devoured by medicare and medicaid over the next 20 years. it s fact. this is math. this is math. no money for roads, no money for