and the negotiation actually is where the interesting part happens. there is a thing called a talk page. and you use the talk page to discuss what the article should look like. you know, the overall plan, all differences of opinion. that talk page has basically come to be used as basically a place where authority is wielded, they have old hands, the administrators and so forth, the people who are lording over the rest of their contributors. they hold court on the talk pages. they have to get things by them, if you want to have anything new added to a wikipedia article. so the process has changed. tucker: larry sanger, cofounder of wikipedia, when the