department and this is existing and this is a racist document, i guarantee that mike how is the president talking about shithole countries not in his department. it is a disputed fact whether that actually occurred or not to begin with. just to be clear, i think the dispute was whether he said shithole or shit house. so again so again, i m not i m not defending it. i don t know if the president said it or not. and whether the president has a view of the country that is that is unfavorable or not unfavorable, i don t think that is a racism comment that it is racist when you consider the reasons what do you make of all of this, jackie, it seems like he was applying the both sides logic that we heard the president talk about in charlottesville to this u.n. document. it struck me just reading through the edits that he made, it seems like he was applying campaign logic to this. they don t want to be hit with this later on the receiving end of this. that is how i read