and they are in effect security and you have to go through them. nbc producer albin albina kovalyova, thanks for your report. on the diplomatic front secretary kerry will take another shot at resolving the crisis by meeting with his counterparts in russia in geneva thursday. meanwhile the u.s. is considering a new round of narrow sanctions, but officials are holding back on a broader effort in case russia invades. nbc s chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, joins me from new york. also with me is former ambassador to russia, michael mcfall. richard, i ll start with you. it seems to be this interesting predicament the ukrainian military is in. it s woefully underfunded, it does not necessarily have the equipment that it needs. there s been anecdotes that the gas has been paid for by a local ukrainian billionaire, that s how in trouble they are to a degree. but if they do in fact try and