congress could disapprove. he could prevail at any time. no more of these hostage taking reckless elements run by republicans. democrats have always avoided them. so this strategy could mean that the debt ceiling goes from being a legislative hostage to being a legislative engine pushing the reconciliation bill forward. and if that happens and we ge rid of the debteiling ridiculous process oe and for all and get both of these bills, reconciltion and the bipartisan infrastructurebill, i will takehat btle of wine sitting behind me to mitch mcconnell. norm teaches me somhing every time he comes on here. thank you for joining us tonight, norm. really appreciate it. thank you. coming up, the man who made sure that every california voter will always from now on receive a ballot in the mail for every