we are on capitol hill meeting with members of the freedom caucus, a caucus 40 members strong who were rallying around florida congressman, daniel webb. i don t know if that s still the case but good to have you. you are still interested in being speaker, right? i am surely interested in being speaker, because i am fighting against the way the process is. a power-based process. i want to see everything based on principle. a lot of your colleagues find paul ryan an acceptable guy to take boehner s place. do you? well, that may be the case but i don t see anything that portrays the idea of changing the way the process is. under a webster speakership, for example, we have a december 11th deadline on the appropriations for 2016. if we don t act, then we would shut down the government. i say we start day one, week one, as owe poed to waiting six
but in actuality this will avoid the government shutdown that people were talking about. this actually is very, very helpful to the republicans looking towards 2016 and taking the white house back. yes, kevin mccarthy is thought to be the leading contender to take boehner s spot. but it s also important to look that he comes out of leadership, so i think people are frustrated with john boehner, but at the same time they should be the party needs to take a harder look at itself. representative peter king said made a great comment yesterday. he said this was a victory for crazies. the party cannot let the crazies win we need to keep some kind of way of building consensus to get things done. so, kevin mccarthy, susan makes the point he comes out of leadership, would his ascension make any difference? would he be much different than what boehner offered? what boehner did that they didn t like he compromised to get deals done with the president to get things done and increase the de
while, by forcing a vote. and some are threatening a shutdown over planned parenthood. but will it ease the partisan bitterness on capitol hill? if anything the tone in washington is likely to become more and not less confrontational. reporter: the chances for agreement on immigration and climate change, unlikely. the man expected to take boehner s place, majority leader kevin mccarthy, whom boehner all but endorsed on friday, the same day that president obama called boehner a good man while looking to the future. i m looking forward to working with the next speaker and in the meantime, john s not going to leave for another 30 days. so hopefully, he feels like he s getting as much stuff done as he can. and i ll certainly be looking forward to working with him on that. reporter: now, even if boehner averts a shutdown for now, there are still big battles looming including over the highway funding bill and of course the debt limit. you remember that big fight from
i think he has a point. i think word began leaking out days before to what it was going to include. it was going to blow through the sequestration numbers. and have whatever word of the day for a tax increase. it was easy to know what was coming here. but you used to be able to tell speaker boehner what to do. well, remember, remember, we did not support the defund strategy back in the fall. we thought that was not the right way to go. we does not port the effort that led to a shutdown. i don t think he s talking about us in that regard, but this is the typically gamesmanship. the speaker, whether it s pelosi at a certain time, it s not a big choice. i ve never seen speaker boehner like this. oh, common, he gets emotional a lot. he does and that s not a criticism. but usually that s sentimental. okay let s take boehner off
but this has been something that has been going on for at least a cycle with this caucus. he has had a lot of trouble controlling it. this is not a new thing and not frankly his first fairly humiliating defeat in this kind of thing right before christmas might i add. sara, from your perspective, what can you do? is this a changed republican party from five years or ten years ago where if the republican speaker of the house said we re going to pass this, you may not all love it but i m the speaker and we need this, would it have gotten done five or ten years ago? take boehner out of the equation. sure. five years ago i think it would have gotten done. what changed? we have a more conservative republican caucus. and, you know, i think that this was a situation where maybe boehner erred a little bit in not putting a huge spending reduction in that package that would have allowed some additional members to be comfortable enough to get it over the finish line. right.