being sent to china. i m going to be discussing all of that with these two, there they are. jose fernandez, a us undersecretary at the state department, he s the leader of the transnational mineral security partnership. and from beijing, einartangen, who s a seniorfellow at the taihe institute. also on the show, i m going to hear from the big boss of hologic. it s the health care company that found a way to make a difference at the height of the pandemic. wherever you rejoining me from around the world, once again, a big hello and a warm welcome to the show. what does it take to get your smartphone from the drawing board to your pocket? well, of course, oodles of ingenuity and billions of dollars in research and development, and that s before the raw materials are even stitched together in the right order to build your device. and it s only possible because of our interconnected world.
that s right, and we are doing all we can to do that. but let s not.just don t think of it as something that we re doing in order to protect ourselves from others. aaron, you could have you could have a natural disaster. and we saw this during covid, natural disasters could affect supply chains. we would all be better off if we can diversify our supply chains. well, on that point, jose fernandez, undersecretary of state for economic growth, energy and the environment, a pleasure having you on the show. and good luck with everything, and i ll talk to you soon. thank you very much. so what do the chinese think? well, my next guest is american born, but he s lived in beijing since 2005. and his work is all about explaining china and the chinese perspective to the wider world. he s a senior fellow at the taihe institute and the chairman of asian narratives. einar tangen, a real pleasure having you on the show and let s start with this, because as you know, just this month, china began
will certainly not trust me. and whether it s personal, or business, or country to country, that really takes its toll. so i think for both sides, it would be very good for small gestures of trust to be made. well, on that point einar tangen from the taihe institute and chairman of asian narratives, a real pleasure having you on the show. thanks forjoining me. and i ll talk to you soon. thank you, aaron. a pleasure doing this. ok, so how do you turn around your fortunes in the face of an unprecedented threat? you know, many businesses struggle to survive during the covid pandemic, but for the women s health care company hologic, it was a chance to, well, prove what they could do and live by their own mantra of empowering people to live healthier lives everywhere, every day. a tough call when much of the world went into lockdown, but hologic pivoted its business from women s health to developing mass covid i9 testing injust a matter of weeks.
it s after america introduced a ban on its top chips being sent to china. i m going to be discussing all of that with these two, there they are. jose fernandez, a us undersecretary at the state department, he s the leader of the transnational mineral security partnership. and from beijing, einartangen, who s a seniorfellow at the taihe institute. also on the show, i m going to hear from the big boss of hologic. it s the health care company that found a way to make a difference at the height of the pandemic. wherever you rejoining me from around the world, once again, a big hello and a warm welcome to the show. what does it take to get your smartphone from the drawing board to your pocket? well, of course, oodles of ingenuity and billions of dollars in research and development, and that s before the raw materials are even stitched together in the right order to build your device. and it s only possible because of our interconnected world.