much at variance with those who are absolutists about the constitution. it s an issue in american politics. things should be based on merits not a rigid philosophy. bill: if they go to the supreme court roberts, alito, gorsuch and do they challenge in california? does the administration win? i think we do. we re right on the facts. california and other jurisdictions now we re seeing local municipalities pushing back. they don t want to be part of sanctuary cities. now they re being threaten the state that somehow they re going to be held to account within the state if they violate the sanctuary city laws. we shouldn t have the supreme court acts as a legislature. we did that for eight years