appearance on good morning america and it was pointed out to me that that week-long scandal, this week-long scandal basically bookend the kelly regime in terms of symbolic debacles. this person also tried to make a case that under reince, nothing that bad happened but i m sure that s debatable. what are you hearing about i know kelly s defenders working the phones today making the case that he really had no idea the extent and sort of the credibility that the photo was really what changed his thinking about the seriousness. but what are you hearing on sort of the finger pointing front of all this? yeah, i mean, i think the difference here between the incident you referred to before and this is that here, the president and kelly aren t necessarily on the same side. look, there has been a change here in the way that the president, according to our sources, think about kelly. you know, he was brought in here under this narrative of, you know, he was this kind of horse in shining arm