on with the intent to confront the students that were going to wear the mexican flag right, right. jenna: does that change the flag? the parents say they didn t. the answer is that would go to make whether or not what the school did was reasonable. if they knew they did it in order to incite violence and start a fight, then the answer is, yes, that could be relevant. jenna: okay. and that s one of the things that will come up if it does go to the higher courts? you know what s going to happen, by the way, because william mentioned this. they re going to go for rehearing en banc which means normally the appeal s in front of three judges of the ninth circuit, but in this case you go in front of the swire court. that s what they re going for. if they lose that, they can go to the u.s. supreme court. jenna: and do you think if they lose that, it s going to be difficult for them to get to the supreme court. i yee actually, yeah. i think this case will stand the way it is.