helped sweep trump into the white house. what are you hearing and what would a biden run mean? that s right, kristen, there s a feeling that joe biden would be a particularly strong candidate in those upper midwestern states including pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, that trump carried in 2016 and that he would hope to carry again if he were to win reelection in 2020, that biden can appeal to those sort of working class white voters who gravitated toward trump last go-round. but the president s advisers are also keeping a very close eye on kamala harris, the senator from california. they thought the president has said he thought her announcement rollout over the last month was very strong. she had a big crowd in california and she has that sort of star appeal that makes trump a little bit nervous. but look, it s a big field, and i think the trump campaign is sort of beginning to adjust and will deal with whoever the nominee becomes. yamiche, let me follow up with you on the poi