sniff through it to get data you needed. andrea: because as much as people want to be kept safe they don t want, one, the think the government is effective enough to us use the broad swath charles was talking about, massive collection of data effectively against the terrorists but not only that they can t protect our information. harris: that s right. andrea: they re incompetent. look i have no problem with you going after terrorists. just don t do it and jeopardize my personal data. harris: those breaches and those hacks people say they re worried about, sandra. it has been pretty bad. sandra: when you asked people in the face of everything they re seeing people s minds change and people are much more willing to give up certain things for national security. when i was in the military in the 1980s, i was told government had eight files on everyone before the internet blew up. harris: eight files? they have our information. i think it is dumb, sort of dumb to track these kind of inn