political spectrum are opposed to this bill. therefore, dana, we re adamantly opposed to the passage of this $24 billion aid package and should not be tied to emergency aid for hurricanes and fires. that s the typical d.c. swamp game playing hostage with the people s money. bill: big question. rebecca how do you define victory? we want ukrainians to push the russians out and make sure the russians don t gain any territory from february 2022 and make sure the ukrainians have a robust military so it doesn t happen again and the eastern front to succeed again. we want a strong europe. american security for the american people at home is tied to stability in europe. these are dollars well spent. bill: kevin, how do you define victory? it is for lives, precious lives that are being lost to stop being lost today. we believe in peace and we believe it needs to happen