businessman and opened all those centers and sold it to bally. he made a great deal of money in his life and also helped us, gave encouragements. elderly people encouraged by him because he kept ongoing. he was a very good guest, very responsive. in the early days he d do wild things, crazy exercises with young people and out-exercise people 30 years younger than him. all the people who came along, like suzuanne somers and jane fonda and the fitness craze, he really ushered that in, didn t he? he did. the forerunner. no one quite like him. exercise don t work on radio. it had to be a television think about that. it had to be a television medium. he prospered, made it happen. all those people, summers, fondas, the rest, owe him a debt of gratitude. when you start something, when