choooosing intervrviewer 2: i i undersrstand you r re arguin. but let t me just - my queststion was mumuch narro. marinana v. bogorarad: so sur, the phphrases thememselves migie commmmon, but ththat s nonot what thehe claim is.. the clclaim is thahat sean and nate p put togetheher anan originall combinatation of phrhrases. they tooook playersrs going o play, , haters goioing to hat, ththey put thehem togetherern ththat sequencnce in a choho. chloe memelas: sean n and nat, they re e saying notot only are e the lyricscs basicacally identitical, but alsoso, it s thehe combinan and d the order r in which these e lyrics appppear in playas gogon to playay anand in shakake it off .. tayloror swift s d defense coming outut and sayining, hohold on a sesecond, thatat tr writes a all her ownwn music. these e lyrics werere inspird by comommonplace p phrases thatat were useded at her scsc, and that t there is nono monopy overer that phrarase. marinana v. bogorarad: i argud why y the case s sh
lisasa respers f france: it t t disparity y and that u unfairns that peoeople are coconstantlyn the lolookout for r because itio histororic, and itit s so wead intoto the amerirican cultur. cari champmpion: cultutural apappropriatioion looks lilikt identifyfying the ororiginato. anand it only y becomes popopr in mainstrtream culturure whwhen someonene who is nonot k decides s to use it t as theirn or make itit their ownwn. sidndney madden:n: i thinink a lot ofof people are just n now wakingg up to o the fact ththat most mumusic genreses t wewere birtheded in americia were birththed by blacack peop. [suspepenseful piaiano music] and were stolen and popularized by mainstream white artists. shirley halperin: the issue of cultural appropriaiation really speaks to the roots of the music industry, which have been for as long as recording has existed, has really been riding on the back of black talent. some recording contracts still say, the record companyy
playing] interviewewer 1: playeyers go play, anand haters g gon hat, yoyou know? songwrititers nathanan butler d seanan hall sueded taylor sws, claiaiming that t taylor swift s sosong, shakeke it o borroweded from a sosong they we fofor 3lw calllled playass gon plalay . lisa r respers frarance: in 20, hallll and butleler filed a a lt agaiainst tayloror swift becee ththey felt lilike those l ls that playayers going g to playay, haters g going to hah had cocome from ththeir 200000 hit song g with 3lw.. sidndney madden:n: to someone who o says they y hear absololy no simililarity betwtween s shake it ofoff anand playas s gon play betweeeen those twtwo choruse, you would d have to bebe listeg with t three sets s of earmufs to tryry and realllly argue e with that.t. [m[music playiying] sean h hall: some e lawyers reran ththe situatioion. but i dididn t get i it becaue usually y when peoplple say copyriright infriningement, nine timimes out of f 10, they mean the music. oh, the
we werere saying n no, it s s not the m music. we r re talking g about thee actualal lyrics inin the chor. shshirley halplperin: it seemed a at the timeme that it t was too cocommon a ph. sosort of tryiying to tradadek or to copypyright whahat s u everyonene uses it.. at the timime, that wawas a vevery common n thing to s s. likeke, hate thehe playerer, not the e game. dometi p pong: so ththere s ala cultltural compoponent here e e a lot t of folks feel likike artists-s mainststream artisists likeke a taylor r swift has ththe agency t to take a little b bit of blacack cultu, use it a at her dispsposal, rex it, , and wash h her hands o t and d say, i dididn t know this is s where it c came fro. anand it mightht not eveven be happppening purprposefully o or maliciouo, bubut it does s happen. cacari champioion: in the e ey 90s and ininto the 200000 s, u had d to be edgygy. and yoyou had to b be comfortae inin your blacackness. and you u had to be e comfortae in s singing in n colloquia