ago. what you heard donald trump say in that video last night was that seems like he plans to go after former president bill clinton for some of his actions from 20 years ago. so ishat the right strategy, is that the right approach? i mean, if what he did in his past is irrelevant, does it make sense for him to go after what bill clinton did in his past? again, it s all about perspective. and it s all about the context. you know, bill clinton was actually in office when all of this happened. he was in the oval office. but what trump needs to do is win over women voters, right? if he brings this up and essentially tries to blame secretary clinton for something that bill clinton did, doesn t he run the risk of alienating the very voters that he needs more of, those suburban women that women voters in general? i think the bottom line is that, you know, 11 years ago he made a comment and people are all up in arms about it. and really, again, going back to hillary clinton, this is rec
this into perspective. so we have a candidate, donald trump, who said something 11 years ago. with another individual. and that was recorded and now they re bringing this to light. trump apologized. he made a statement. and i think we need to put some perspective in that now we have another candidate, secretary clinton, who actually in recent history has lied to the american people, lied to the fbi, lied to congress, and she has done things that have affected people s lives while she was in office. and i think that s much more relevant than what somebody says 11 years ago. i don t know why this has well, in some ways i do know. because people there s a lot of people who don t want to see trump succeed. but i don t i don t put a whole lot of a whole lot of i don t have a lot of problem with moving forward. from what he said. let me ask you about the crux of your argument, right, which is that this happened 11 years
history. this is recent history. you know, and i frankly agree with trump. she should be in jail. and yet she is somehow qualified and because he made a comment 11 years ago, he s not qualified? doesn t make sense at all. and i m sure you ve been watching the news coverage every hour another republican comes forward and essentially says i can t support donald trump and calls for him to get out, including john thune, the first leader, congressional leader to come forward and call for him to get out of this race. can he survive this? just from a practical standpoint? i absolutely think that trump can svive this. and i think he will win in november. what does he need to do tomorrow night to survive? because a lot of people look at tomorrow night and say it s do or die. i think he needs to do what he s been doing. in the first debate, the talking heads, right and left, said he lost the debate, da, da, da, but then all of these online polls, 30-plus polls, overwhelmingly,
other nominees. that occurs in two ways. one, if he dies, or two, he resigns. there is no mechanism for him to removed as the nominee. people just need get that out of their head. it doesn t exist in our rules. secondly, if he decides to step down then more than likely what would happen would be pence would be the first go-to. the committee would have to vote. you would need a significant super majority of delegates to vote on that. that probably would happen. but again, you re crushed by the clock. you re crunched by the calendar here. and so it is this is one of those storms that you re out in the middle of the ocean on it. and it s battering and beating you. you re just going to have to weather it out. the party has got a problem here. it s got a big problem. and it is not an easy one to resolve. as elise pointed out. there are no good endings to this. none. and so even if trump decides to, you know, step down two weeks from now, what are you going to
from some prominent republican voices for trump to step ased, including new hampshire kelly ayotte and john thune. and also within the past few minutes, this from the wall street journal quoting trump as saying, zero chance i ll quit. and support i m getting is, quote, unbelievable. i want to bring in nbc s hallie jackson, fellow road warrior, following the trump campaign for us today. within the last hour we have learned that not only will trump not be attending this afternoon s event in wisconsin, neither will his running mate, mike pence, and getting this new statement from mike pence. so what do you make of all of this? is this basically a moment of chaos? reporter: yeah. it is, kristen. my phone is like burning my hand, just because of how much sort of has developed in the last hour. and i think the two key moments since we last spoke about 45 minutes ago are the new pence statement, and senator john thune, just within the last about five minutes, coming out now withdrawin