to improve the child abuse laws in the united states. it is great to have you on the programme. in the first instance, what was your reaction to the verdict? oh, i was thrilled reaction to the verdict? oh, i was thrilled and reaction to the verdict? oh, i was thrilled and thank - reaction to the verdict? oh, i was thrilled and thank you i reaction to the verdict? oh, i was thrilled and thank you so much for having me. this is the moment that every survivor dreams of. actualjustice. dreams of. actual justice. watching dreams of. actualjustice. watching their perpetrator go to jail. this was the right result. so many victims but it was also, we learned a lot of lessons through this trial. yeah, you know, the first allegation against our kelly was such a long time ago now. 1996. why does it take so long to prosecute a child sex abuse case? ~ . . ., ., , , case? according to the best science the case? according to the best science the average - case? according to the best science the