testimony from nsa director michael rodgers. the first we ve heard from him since the unmasking of names caught up in foreign surveillance aled of the election last year. katherine herridge joins us live from washington. good to see you. has there been any change in russian behavior since the election? reporter: the nsa director testified this morning, because there hadn t been a strong 3ub lick rebuke by the united states against russia, hasn t really cost the russians anything financially. they had taken the lessons they learned through the interference last fall in the election here in the united states and they re now applying those lessons to other democracies. we ve seen another russian attempt to affect the outcome of the election in france. do you see any slackening reduction in russian/chinese efforts to commit cyber attacks and even affect elections?